Stephen Cohen on Democracy Now!

by Sean on January 4, 2012

I’m not sure how I missed this, but Amy Goodman did a segment on Democracy Now! with Stephen Cohen. Topics include the Russian protests, the Communist Party, and the general political mood of the populace. Decent discussion, I thought.

{ 14 comments }

mikevoyce February 22, 2012 at 6:21 am

The public should never be under estimated. It is time to tell the people of Russia what Putin’s support for the murder of Syrian children means for them.

Evgeny February 23, 2012 at 7:46 am

“It is time to tell the people of Russia what Putin’s support for the murder of Syrian children means for them.”

Dear Mike, please, do.

mikevoyce February 23, 2012 at 9:02 am

I’m rather hoping those who understand Russia better, and who, most importantly, are better connected than I, will recognise the need and meet it.
For myself, I am steeped in the idea of The Rule of Law – Professor Dicey’s idea of the Social Contract, by which the only right any government has to rule is that it rules in the interests of the people.
For all it should be universal, this has proved a very Anglo-Saxon idea. Certainly. Bashar al-Assad is currently ruling against the will of the people. If Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin holds the same values and understanding as Assad, is this not reason to tremble?
I have always believed the Russian nature to be moral and emotional, is Putin unmoved by Assad using artilery batteries to muder women, children and international journalists? Savage wickedness is wrong not only because it is bad but because it is stupid. Such indisciminate murder will annoy people and strengthen their determination to remove the killer. Does Vladimir Putin have so little love of Humanity and so little understanding that he will continue to veto sanctions against Assad? And if he is so spiritually poor, what will he do to the people of Russia?

Evgeny February 27, 2012 at 3:18 am

“If Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin holds the same values and understanding as Assad, is this not reason to tremble?”

Where did you get such strange ideas? Putin and Assad belong to different cultures.
Any way, I am not a spokesman for Putin.

“Bashar al-Assad is currently ruling against the will of the people.”

I certainly _like_ the values you have. But values worth anything only when you have facts to build on.

“Yet, in recent polling funded by the leadership of Qatar (which is currently experiencing frosty relations with Syria), the conclusion was that 55 per cent of Syrians support Mr. Assad.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/the-road-to-damascus-goes-through-moscow/article2345566/

Looks like Mr. Assad rules in the interests of the people — at least, it’s more likely than the opposite statement.

mikevoyce February 27, 2012 at 6:56 am

I get the “strange idea” that the people of Russia and the people of Syria are all human beings from the fact of my own humanity. Do you think that people living in different cultures or different nations are somehow not equaaly human?

I am shocked that you think it could somehow be in the interests of any people to be indiscrimantly attacked and murdered. As I write, a township of some 40,000 innocent people is being indiscriminantly shelled and mortared on Assad’s orders. And this is in the interests of the people?!!

There is cause to tremble in deed at the prospect of being ruled by people who think as you do. Would it be in the interests of the people to bomb and shell parts of Moscow if a section of the population disagreed with Mr. Putin?

Evgeny February 27, 2012 at 8:41 am

You win the argument. I agree to you entirely and wholeheartedly. What a pleasure to talk to a man of integrity and noble thought!

mikevoyce February 27, 2012 at 9:45 am

On behalf of people everywhere, Thank You!
Please tell everyone about Syria, it really is a matter of life and death; I only hope it never becomes a matter of life and death for the people of Russia, and that is my fear if Putin is elected.

Evgeny February 28, 2012 at 12:51 pm

By the way, Mike, I have actually talked about the situation in Syria with two my co-workers. I have asked them: “Do you know that innocent people are being killed in Syria?”

One coworker replied that she has no idea about what happens in Syria, she knows only what do the world media report about the situation there. Then, the other coworker asked me about what do I propose to do — to save those people?

Now, I should ask you — what are your sources of information except for the mainstream media? What is your plan to alleviate the local situation in Syria?

Thank you, and I wish you well.

mikevoyce March 6, 2012 at 6:47 am

The Dark cannot stand the Light. This is the reason the warped and perverted minds of “sinners” such as Assad, and the other tyrants, will not be found in the presence of God. If such creatures saw themselves in the light of truth, the self-loathing which would rise up in them would utterly overwhelm their souls.
It is the job of ordinary and decent people to shine the light of Truth on such creatures, so as to cause them to crawl away from the presence of Humanity. When they know their victims are infinitely better than they themselves they will not raise their heads again.
My sources, beyond a reading of the Classics and Philosophy, a few private living sources around the World, B.B.C. Reuters and other news agencies, Twitter and YouTube, and the uncensored Internet, are simply the poor senses of your humble servant. But be assured, there are liars, cheats and hiders from the truth beyond Assad and Putin. You know them by their actions, their storm and bluster against those who hold to any sort of virtue, their sad attempts to imprison torture and intimidate in the hope they can expunge the facts, as if violence could hide Truth or put out its light.
I applaud your feeling for all creation, that which does not tell lies, but if Humanity cannot rid itself of the infection of people such as Assad and Putin, what sort of guardians do we make for the World?

Evgeny March 6, 2012 at 10:32 am

I have read your reply. I do not dare to answer, in order not to cast shadows. Let the pure light you project lit the Universe.

I hope you enjoy a Russian music track named “White on White”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BMPnxwDsfU
http://orgia.ru/article.php?id=144

mikevoyce March 8, 2012 at 10:55 am

I shall listen to your music, and thank you, as always for your comment.

Evgeny February 27, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Thank you, too. But I am more concerned with the fight for the rights of non-human people, the dolphins. To think only that these non-human people are routinely killed, miamed or used for entertainment in land-locked facilities!

mikevoyce February 28, 2012 at 9:07 am

I wish you well, but if we cannot treat humans properly then what chance will animals have?

Evgeny February 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm

Dolphins are not animals, but non-human persons. Calling dolphins “animals” is a form of speciesism, which brings back the memories of the XX century, reeking of xenophobia and the most horrible crime — the Holocaust! We should take the history lessons well. We should not treat intelligent beings based on their appearance, but solely on their cognitive abilities!

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