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	<title>Comments on: Domesticating March 8th</title>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Boglioli Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Boglioli Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not difficult to argue that the role of women in Russian society is a drastic departure from the days of Kollontai.  But, I think there are some interesting nuances within the historical debate of Soviet feminism that are compelling to think about.

Kollontai never lived to see her provocative visions of open families and relationship spheres (often dubbed &#039;free love&#039; which is a misnomer in my opinion but we&#039;ll go with it for ease of use) come to fruition. Some Party feminists were able to leave their kiddies behind to nannies and extended families while they mused in Moscow political circles and travelled abroad (such as Kollontai), but the Soviet feminist ideal of a truly &#039;free&#039; woman never made it to the mainstream. Ironically, most of these priveledged children were raised by Old Believer nannies and babushki. Personal narratives from those children recount the ironic juxtaposition in their upbringing between radical feminist mothers and their traditional caregiving counterparts. 
I agree that the ‘place’ of women in Russian society seems to be less obvious and March 8 may be a shining example of that. Whereas the Soviets showed the world that women could be fighter pilots during war, doctors, academics and political leaders (to some extent), the feminist movement has seemingly dwindled since the fall of communism. But perhaps it isn’t so simple- perhaps we all are, in actuality, glorifying the myth of Soviet women to begin with? I don’t have the answers- that’s why I keep reading  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not difficult to argue that the role of women in Russian society is a drastic departure from the days of Kollontai.  But, I think there are some interesting nuances within the historical debate of Soviet feminism that are compelling to think about.</p>
<p>Kollontai never lived to see her provocative visions of open families and relationship spheres (often dubbed &#8216;free love&#8217; which is a misnomer in my opinion but we&#8217;ll go with it for ease of use) come to fruition. Some Party feminists were able to leave their kiddies behind to nannies and extended families while they mused in Moscow political circles and travelled abroad (such as Kollontai), but the Soviet feminist ideal of a truly &#8216;free&#8217; woman never made it to the mainstream. Ironically, most of these priveledged children were raised by Old Believer nannies and babushki. Personal narratives from those children recount the ironic juxtaposition in their upbringing between radical feminist mothers and their traditional caregiving counterparts.<br />
I agree that the ‘place’ of women in Russian society seems to be less obvious and March 8 may be a shining example of that. Whereas the Soviets showed the world that women could be fighter pilots during war, doctors, academics and political leaders (to some extent), the feminist movement has seemingly dwindled since the fall of communism. But perhaps it isn’t so simple- perhaps we all are, in actuality, glorifying the myth of Soviet women to begin with? I don’t have the answers- that’s why I keep reading  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - a sort of interesting &lt;a href=&quot;http://tema.livejournal.com/588850.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poll about the holiday&lt;/a&gt; from Tema Lebedev&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; a sort of interesting <a href="http://tema.livejournal.com/588850.html" rel="nofollow">poll about the holiday</a> from Tema Lebedev&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, I guess one could make a similar anti-consumerist complaint about Christmas and a number of other holidays which have idealistic roots not reflected in the way they are celebrated by most people.  One thing you have missed is the fact that women are often the most enthusiastic congratulators of their sisters on this holiday - so there is at least some element of feminine solidarity.  I think the more valid critique is the one sometimes leveled at Black History Month - &quot;What, we get one month and they get 11?&quot;  See, e.g., &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/7402867@N08/3097761364/in/set-72157604852928667/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this graffito from SPB&lt;/a&gt;, which reads, &quot;Shut up, woman, your day is on the 8th of March.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, I guess one could make a similar anti-consumerist complaint about Christmas and a number of other holidays which have idealistic roots not reflected in the way they are celebrated by most people.  One thing you have missed is the fact that women are often the most enthusiastic congratulators of their sisters on this holiday &#8211; so there is at least some element of feminine solidarity.  I think the more valid critique is the one sometimes leveled at Black History Month &#8211; &#8220;What, we get one month and they get 11?&#8221;  See, e.g., <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7402867@N08/3097761364/in/set-72157604852928667/" rel="nofollow">this graffito from SPB</a>, which reads, &#8220;Shut up, woman, your day is on the 8th of March.&#8221;</p>
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