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	<title>Comments on: Punk&#8217;s not Dead. It&#8217;s Just Under Police Surveillance.</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2009/07/18/punks-not-dead-its-just-under-police-surveillance/comment-page-1/#comment-195126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, emo probably should be banned, just not for being extremist.  The site&#039;s proprietor probably remembers when emo meant bands like Still Life, Yaphet Kotto, Saetia, Red Scare, etc., then those damn kids from Kansas had to go ruin it all.

As for punk and the law, it all depends are what  you were rebelling against.  Being straight edge wouldn&#039;t get you thrown in jail, but it would make you different than 95% of the kids at your school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, emo probably should be banned, just not for being extremist.  The site&#8217;s proprietor probably remembers when emo meant bands like Still Life, Yaphet Kotto, Saetia, Red Scare, etc., then those damn kids from Kansas had to go ruin it all.</p>
<p>As for punk and the law, it all depends are what  you were rebelling against.  Being straight edge wouldn&#8217;t get you thrown in jail, but it would make you different than 95% of the kids at your school.</p>
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		<title>By: poemless</title>
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		<dc:creator>poemless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks Kolya.</description>
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		<title>By: Kolya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, good comment, poemless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, good comment, poemless.</p>
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		<title>By: poemless</title>
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		<dc:creator>poemless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random thoughts:

Oh, &lt;i&gt;po-zhaluista...&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Kino&lt;/i&gt;?  Isn&#039;t that like going after kids these days for listening to the Doors, or something?  Like, if the kids are listening to Kino, that&#039;s cool, in the way that the students on campus these days are listening to The Smiths.  The most die-hard fans of these bands have now settled into a life of worrying about their children and bank accounts and what to wear to their class re-unions.  What&#039;s next?  Surveillance of pensioners&#039; homes for ideologically dangerous Vystotski fans?

What ever happened to the proposed &quot;emo ban?&quot;  I read countless articles, entertaining and steeped in irony, about the legislation, but can&#039;t find out if it was ever passed.

You&#039;re not a real punk unless the police are after you, IMO.  If you fancy yourself punk, but the police are not interested in you, basically your are just playing dress up.  You are a poseur.  For that you probably should be arrested.  Ok, not really.  But there should be repercussions.  

The police in the bucolic small Midwestern American town where I grew up were always taking my brother and his friends to the station for questioning because they were ... skaters.  So, one way to frame this story is that it smacks of Soviet-style oppression.  Another would be that when you&#039;re a teenage no-goodnik, &lt;i&gt;life&lt;/i&gt; smacks of Soviet-style oppression.  

A story recently in the Chicago Tribune: &lt;a href=&quot;http://punkmusic.about.com/b/2009/07/15/fbi-arrests-alleged-founder-of-hardcore-punk-street-gang-on-extortion-charge.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FBI Arrests Alleged Founder of Hardcore Punk Street Gang on Extortion Charge.&lt;/a&gt;

Anyway, until someone is thrown in a labor camp for downloading a Viktor Tsoi song, I&#039;m going to refrain from flipping out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts:</p>
<p>Oh, <i>po-zhaluista&#8230;</i></p>
<p><i>Kino</i>?  Isn&#8217;t that like going after kids these days for listening to the Doors, or something?  Like, if the kids are listening to Kino, that&#8217;s cool, in the way that the students on campus these days are listening to The Smiths.  The most die-hard fans of these bands have now settled into a life of worrying about their children and bank accounts and what to wear to their class re-unions.  What&#8217;s next?  Surveillance of pensioners&#8217; homes for ideologically dangerous Vystotski fans?</p>
<p>What ever happened to the proposed &#8220;emo ban?&#8221;  I read countless articles, entertaining and steeped in irony, about the legislation, but can&#8217;t find out if it was ever passed.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a real punk unless the police are after you, IMO.  If you fancy yourself punk, but the police are not interested in you, basically your are just playing dress up.  You are a poseur.  For that you probably should be arrested.  Ok, not really.  But there should be repercussions.  </p>
<p>The police in the bucolic small Midwestern American town where I grew up were always taking my brother and his friends to the station for questioning because they were &#8230; skaters.  So, one way to frame this story is that it smacks of Soviet-style oppression.  Another would be that when you&#8217;re a teenage no-goodnik, <i>life</i> smacks of Soviet-style oppression.  </p>
<p>A story recently in the Chicago Tribune: <a href="http://punkmusic.about.com/b/2009/07/15/fbi-arrests-alleged-founder-of-hardcore-punk-street-gang-on-extortion-charge.htm" rel="nofollow">FBI Arrests Alleged Founder of Hardcore Punk Street Gang on Extortion Charge.</a></p>
<p>Anyway, until someone is thrown in a labor camp for downloading a Viktor Tsoi song, I&#8217;m going to refrain from flipping out.</p>
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		<title>By: Khabar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kino&quot; is no way extremist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kino&#8221; is no way extremist.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve looked for the whole report but it seems to not been put online or I just can&#039;t find it.  I assume that it will define how such music is extremist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve looked for the whole report but it seems to not been put online or I just can&#8217;t find it.  I assume that it will define how such music is extremist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how is Kino violent, extremist, or racist in any way?  How could &quot;political extremists&quot; use such music to wreak havoc?  It like street gang that listens to U2.  Who in their right mind would fear such a group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how is Kino violent, extremist, or racist in any way?  How could &#8220;political extremists&#8221; use such music to wreak havoc?  It like street gang that listens to U2.  Who in their right mind would fear such a group?</p>
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		<title>By: Khabar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just came to my head there is quite a lot of musics which pass for racist, classic Russian rock BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just came to my head there is quite a lot of musics which pass for racist, classic Russian rock BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Evgeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evgeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khabar:

&quot;Ban of the music&quot;? I agree that&#039;s nonsense.

However, if anyone attempted to ban my beloved music band, &quot;Orgy of the holy men&quot;, I would take that QUITE seriously!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khabar:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ban of the music&#8221;? I agree that&#8217;s nonsense.</p>
<p>However, if anyone attempted to ban my beloved music band, &#8220;Orgy of the holy men&#8221;, I would take that QUITE seriously!</p>
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		<title>By: Evgeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evgeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>persian iran:

Most people in your country supported Ahmadinejad. We respect the choice of both opponents and proponents of Ahmadinejad. As reported, Iranian elections were more democratic than those in Russia. Don&#039;t ask us to blame you for what is the legitimate choice of your people.</description>
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<p>Most people in your country supported Ahmadinejad. We respect the choice of both opponents and proponents of Ahmadinejad. As reported, Iranian elections were more democratic than those in Russia. Don&#8217;t ask us to blame you for what is the legitimate choice of your people.</p>
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