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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/11/19/the-open-trial-that-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-131625</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...you’ve reminded me that I should probably make some sort of announcement.&lt;/i&gt;

Just lookin&#039; out for your relationship with your readers.  Let me know if you ever need a PR manager to help with this kind of thing... anyway, congrats, I&#039;m sure it will be an interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;you’ve reminded me that I should probably make some sort of announcement.</i></p>
<p>Just lookin&#8217; out for your relationship with your readers.  Let me know if you ever need a PR manager to help with this kind of thing&#8230; anyway, congrats, I&#8217;m sure it will be an interesting discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;On the actual banks going bankrupt, I was under the impression that Russia has literally hundreds of banks...&lt;/em&gt;

Over 5,000 I have been told by somebody working in the Russian banking sector, most of them tiny outfits formed in the 90s and named after a village of a dozen people.  One or two of these on Sakhalin have gone under recently.  

Even the major Russian banks are pretty awful though.  An ATM card doesn&#039;t come as standard with an account (or at least on Sakhalin), and you get charged 1% commission for using it.  The bank&#039;s recommended method of withdrawing cash is for you to queue up for 2 hours with your passport, visiting several counters and having lots of papers stamped.  And internet banking is unheard of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>On the actual banks going bankrupt, I was under the impression that Russia has literally hundreds of banks&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Over 5,000 I have been told by somebody working in the Russian banking sector, most of them tiny outfits formed in the 90s and named after a village of a dozen people.  One or two of these on Sakhalin have gone under recently.  </p>
<p>Even the major Russian banks are pretty awful though.  An ATM card doesn&#8217;t come as standard with an account (or at least on Sakhalin), and you get charged 1% commission for using it.  The bank&#8217;s recommended method of withdrawing cash is for you to queue up for 2 hours with your passport, visiting several counters and having lots of papers stamped.  And internet banking is unheard of.</p>
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		<title>By: Aleks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting point about accusing the media of hyping up the crisis and making people panic. 

As someone who listens a lot to the world&#039;s best propaganda (BBC), BBC reporters themselves and economic experts have more than a few times been asking whether media hype is playing an important role in creating panic/worry. I always wonder how far perception becomes as important as reality which in the current crisis is particularly bad as we still don&#039;t really know how far sub-prime has gone...

As to the trial, I get the impression that either &lt;i&gt;someone&lt;/i&gt; got cold feet or that basic PR is still not taught or understood by government officials, i.e. consistency and keep one&#039;s own speculation, opinion or guesses
to one&#039;s self. If the trial was never supposed to be public, how could such an official be so off message?

On the actual banks going bankrupt, I was under the impression that Russia has literally hundreds of banks, something that might have been sustainable at a very local level, but clearly not for anything more. Will these bankruptcies force a major rationalization (modernization) in the Russian banking system with very few small banks just a few biggies???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting point about accusing the media of hyping up the crisis and making people panic. </p>
<p>As someone who listens a lot to the world&#8217;s best propaganda (BBC), BBC reporters themselves and economic experts have more than a few times been asking whether media hype is playing an important role in creating panic/worry. I always wonder how far perception becomes as important as reality which in the current crisis is particularly bad as we still don&#8217;t really know how far sub-prime has gone&#8230;</p>
<p>As to the trial, I get the impression that either <i>someone</i> got cold feet or that basic PR is still not taught or understood by government officials, i.e. consistency and keep one&#8217;s own speculation, opinion or guesses<br />
to one&#8217;s self. If the trial was never supposed to be public, how could such an official be so off message?</p>
<p>On the actual banks going bankrupt, I was under the impression that Russia has literally hundreds of banks, something that might have been sustainable at a very local level, but clearly not for anything more. Will these bankruptcies force a major rationalization (modernization) in the Russian banking system with very few small banks just a few biggies???</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyndon, you&#039;ve reminded me that I should probably make some sort of announcement. I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re planning to film the event. If they are, I hope they don&#039;t tell me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyndon, you&#8217;ve reminded me that I should probably make some sort of announcement. I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re planning to film the event. If they are, I hope they don&#8217;t tell me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Von Doom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Von Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? Who&#039;s this Guillory guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? Who&#8217;s this Guillory guy?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, sorry for going off-topic, but will there be any way for your online fans and colleagues to watch video from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paulklebnikovfund.org/downloads/invitation_081124.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this event&lt;/a&gt;?  I&#039;m sure that many inquiring minds who frequent the comments section here will want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, sorry for going off-topic, but will there be any way for your online fans and colleagues to watch video from <a href="http://www.paulklebnikovfund.org/downloads/invitation_081124.pdf" rel="nofollow">this event</a>?  I&#8217;m sure that many inquiring minds who frequent the comments section here will want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Von Doom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Von Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The some people expect the Russian government to do the opposite, which is the problem. Anything the RG does will be interpreted in that light.

Anyway, isn&#039;t fearful jurors supposedly one problem with closure of the Khlebnikov case? God knows I wouldn&#039;t want to be a juror or judge in a high-profile case with likely mafia connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The some people expect the Russian government to do the opposite, which is the problem. Anything the RG does will be interpreted in that light.</p>
<p>Anyway, isn&#8217;t fearful jurors supposedly one problem with closure of the Khlebnikov case? God knows I wouldn&#8217;t want to be a juror or judge in a high-profile case with likely mafia connections.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Newman</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/11/19/the-open-trial-that-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-130751</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The funny thing is that the same people who think there is a government hand in the court’s closing are the very same people who would blame the government if a juror was threatened, or worse, ended up dead.&lt;/em&gt;

Some people expect the Russian government to dispense justice openly &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; uphold law and order?!!  The cheek of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The funny thing is that the same people who think there is a government hand in the court’s closing are the very same people who would blame the government if a juror was threatened, or worse, ended up dead.</em></p>
<p>Some people expect the Russian government to dispense justice openly <em>and</em> uphold law and order?!!  The cheek of them!</p>
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