Communist Circumlocution

I was struck by Zyuganov’s comment during a protest march earlier this month that the capitalists should read Das Kapital, as if a reading recommendation might make them quake in their boots. I think that KPRF might need to get a leadership that can think of itself as an opposition and do something a little more stirring.

On the other hand, rutube/youtube clips of a re-tooled Zyuganov “reaching out” might be the final nail in the coffin of the Russian Communists.

And I might be a little tired, with all those “might”’s in the comment above…

I can’t believe I’m writing a chapter on this little sleep. It might suck.

You count Yabloko as left? I thought I was the only person who did that.

That’s really interesting. Usually they are paired with SPS as a “liberal party.”

Even though anywhere in Europe they would be called the Socialists.

::raises hands::

Ummm, excuse me … Socialists are on political left. Where else are you going to put them, Von Doom?

Doom suspects that Wally did not understand. Doom meant that Yabloko is usually classed as being on the right of the Russian political spectrum.

Circumlocution is spelled wrong, by the way.

Doom suspects that Wally did not understand. Doom meant that Yabloko is usually classed as being on the right of the Russian political spectrum.

Ah.

So, SPS is the party that “anywhere in Europe [..] would be called the Socialists.”

What can be further right than Единая Россия?

Most descriptions I’ve ever seen of Российская объединённая демократическая партия “Яблоко” described them as a liberal party. I will concede that isn’t necessarily a correct description, however.

Of course, none of these parties (other than Единая Россия) actually get to create any policies or do anything except possible object as legislation is approved by landslide, so perhaps difficult to decide if they are actually liberal or conservative, other than their rhetoric.

But they are dead for sure. I mean Apple and SPS. And also for a political party the best position is on the top, I think.

“So, SPS is the party that “anywhere in Europe [..] would be called the Socialists.””

No, I meant Yabloko. This is so confusing.

What I meant is: Yabloko and SPS usually get lumped together as “right” or “liberal.” However, by EU standards, Yabloko is a left-wing party and SPS is right-wing.

Ok, I got it … 100% now!

I apologize for misreading what you wrote.

“The days of crammed broad sheets like are over.”

I think the good style and proper grammar require a correction, as follows:

The days of crammed broad sheets are, like, over.

If trying to think of Yabloko as Lefty Socialists makes your eyes blur over, check this out:

Russian Liberals Launch Pro-Kremlin Party

MOSCOW (Reuters) — Russian liberals launched a new pro-Kremlin political party on November 16 promising to defend middle class values but rivals said it was just a tool for the authorities to suck support away from genuine opposition groups.

At a meeting in a Moscow hotel leaders of the Right Cause party said they aimed to win seats at Russia’s parliamentary election in 2011 under the slogan: “Freedom, property, order.”

“Today in the official political arena there is no respectful, credible political party projecting the right’s ideas,” one of the new party’s leaders, Leonid Gozman, said of the new political alliance, according to Interfax news agency.

“Now we are in the same boat and success has to be shared.”

But opponents accuse the SPS of selling out to the Kremlin, which may potentially need the Right Cause to cushion itself from anti-government feelings, especially during a global financial crisis which has hit Russia hard.

“This marks the end of these liberal organizations and of what remained of their independence in politics,” Eduard Limonov, one of the leaders of the opposition group Other Russia, told Interfax.

The Right Cause is an amalgamation of the opposition Union of Right Forces (SPS) with the broadly pro-Kremlin Democratic Party and Civic Force.

The SPS — set up by pro-Western reformers — won no seats in last year’s parliamentary election and did not field a candidate in the presidential election this year.

Earlier this month the SPS said it was joining the pro-Kremlin alliance because that was the only way it could survive.

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is hugely popular in Russia and his Unified Russia party dominates the Russian parliament. Other than the Communists, opposition parties have struggled to win significant support.

Is Just Russia not doing its job of sucking support away from genuine opposition groups? Or is it being too Just? Are we using “Liberal” to mean “Capitalist” or “Democratic”? Is there some great untapped free-market-fetishist electorate in danger of being snapped up by some other party established enough to even make it on the ballots? How is merging SPS with pro-Kremlin parties going to create an opposition party? WTF is a “pro-Kremlin opposition party?” That doesn’t even make sense. Can someone tell me which definition of “liberal” Limonov is using? I’m confused….

Ow – my brain hurts.

Also, I think the proper comparison would be to http://www.democrats.org/, not http://www.barackobama.com/index.php. Even though they are effectively the same. Yeah, the Russians need to learn how to raise money online. Look at UR’s page. No one cares about all that. Take all of that boring news down – no one cares what you are doing. Transparency, Shmansparency. They need to slap a big, shiny teddy bear up there, and attach a “donate” button right on its belly button. Then you’ll have yourself a real party website. Then you’ll be a REAL democracy. Sheesh…

This is hidden all the way at the bottom. You even have to scroll to see it. But, it is a start, if they want to be taken seriously as a political party.
http://www.edinros.ru/gallery.html?gallery=147924&picture=1

Yeah, the Russians need to learn how to raise money online.
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That’s funny, – the Russians know very well how to make money off line. May it be known that FSB (ex KGB) runs hundreds of porno sites, thus financing the covert operations.

“May it be known that FSB (ex KGB) runs hundreds of porno sites, thus financing the covert operations.”

So this is true, Dima? Or you are trying to be crudely funny, like VVP? – And not being so at all.

“May it be known that FSB (ex KGB) runs hundreds of porno sites, thus financing the covert operations.”

So this is true, Dima? Or you are trying to be crudely funny, like VVP? – And not being so at all.
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Yes, Tess it’s a bit of both. FSB (ex KGB) runs those “porno” sites … you know why they are considered “porno”? For they display NAKED TRUTH.

We both VVP and I can be crudely funny, unfortunately the Western people don’t get our humor most of the time (too much of that genetically engineered food in their system).