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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-4/#comment-66070</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Behold the miracle of diplomacy: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24138182-5005961,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Behold the miracle of diplomacy: <a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24138182-5005961,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24138182-5005961,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Russia Travel Club</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-4/#comment-63555</link>
		<dc:creator>Russia Travel Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day earlier, at G8 summit Russia and the US have made a deal that Russia will support the US resolution on Zimbabwe and in return the US will not promise NATO membership to Georgia. The next day the US has violated the agreement and Russia responded by voting against the resolution. Shame on whom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day earlier, at G8 summit Russia and the US have made a deal that Russia will support the US resolution on Zimbabwe and in return the US will not promise NATO membership to Georgia. The next day the US has violated the agreement and Russia responded by voting against the resolution. Shame on whom?</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-4/#comment-62046</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lest us not forget that north sudan is predominantly arab and moslem and south sudan/rebels aren’t arab or moslem (christian/animist).&quot;

I think the fact that the perpetrators are Arabs and Muslims is probably a factor in the media coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lest us not forget that north sudan is predominantly arab and moslem and south sudan/rebels aren’t arab or moslem (christian/animist).&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the fact that the perpetrators are Arabs and Muslims is probably a factor in the media coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Joera</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-3/#comment-62044</link>
		<dc:creator>Joera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not bad for a novice: 

Latest developments in Zimbabwe confirm Russia&#039;s stance was right -Medvedev

BARVIKHA  (Moscow  region).  July  22 (Interfax)  - Russia remains opposed  to  the imposition of sanctions by the U.N. Security Council on Zimbabwe,  and the latest developments in that country confirm that this stance is right, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said.

&quot;We  discussed  the issue at the G8 summit. But we did not agree to impose any sanctions through the U.N. Security Council. On the contrary, at my insistence  the  mention  of the U.N. Security Council was dropped from the draft resolution of the G8 summit in Japan,&quot; he said responding to a question from Interfax after talks with the Venezuelan president on Tuesday.

&quot;I  continue  to  believe  that the U.N. Security Council should be dealing  with somewhat different issues, in line with the U.N. Charter,&quot; Medvedev said

&lt;b&gt;He  said  he  insisted  on &quot;giving our African partners a chance to thrash out   this problem-ridden subject  in cooperation  with  the authorities  and  opposition  in  Zimbabwe.&quot; &quot;In other words I spoke for giving them [the  conflicting sides in Zimbabwe] an opportunity to hold consultations,&quot; he said.

&quot;The latest developments indicate that this approach was absolutely correct,&quot; Medvedev said.&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;From  the  very  start  our  stance was consistent and the current consultations  involving  President  Mugabe  and the  opposition leader mediated   by   South  African  President  Mbeki  confirm  that  it  was justified,&quot; he said.

He  said  attempts  to interpret Russia&#039;s stance are senseless. &quot;It has been consistent from the very start,&quot; he said.

Medvedev  voiced  hope that consultations on Zimbabwe, which Russia had favored,  will  result  in  key  decisions  on the settlement,  in particular  an  understanding  on how to overcome differences, hopefully establishing civic peace and possibly distributing powers.

The  subject  of  Zimbabwe  &quot;has been quite acute lately,&quot; Medvedev said. The  declaration adopted at the G8 summit expressed the concern of G8 leaders  about  the  current processes in Zimbabwe, in particular the way the  elections were held, he said. &quot;That was our common approach but we did not  agree  to  impose  any  sanctions  through the U.N. Security Council,&quot; he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not bad for a novice: </p>
<p>Latest developments in Zimbabwe confirm Russia&#8217;s stance was right -Medvedev</p>
<p>BARVIKHA  (Moscow  region).  July  22 (Interfax)  &#8211; Russia remains opposed  to  the imposition of sanctions by the U.N. Security Council on Zimbabwe,  and the latest developments in that country confirm that this stance is right, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We  discussed  the issue at the G8 summit. But we did not agree to impose any sanctions through the U.N. Security Council. On the contrary, at my insistence  the  mention  of the U.N. Security Council was dropped from the draft resolution of the G8 summit in Japan,&#8221; he said responding to a question from Interfax after talks with the Venezuelan president on Tuesday.</p>
<p>&#8220;I  continue  to  believe  that the U.N. Security Council should be dealing  with somewhat different issues, in line with the U.N. Charter,&#8221; Medvedev said</p>
<p><b>He  said  he  insisted  on &#8220;giving our African partners a chance to thrash out   this problem-ridden subject  in cooperation  with  the authorities  and  opposition  in  Zimbabwe.&#8221; &#8220;In other words I spoke for giving them [the  conflicting sides in Zimbabwe] an opportunity to hold consultations,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;The latest developments indicate that this approach was absolutely correct,&#8221; Medvedev said.</b></p>
<p>&#8220;From  the  very  start  our  stance was consistent and the current consultations  involving  President  Mugabe  and the  opposition leader mediated   by   South  African  President  Mbeki  confirm  that  it  was justified,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>He  said  attempts  to interpret Russia&#8217;s stance are senseless. &#8220;It has been consistent from the very start,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Medvedev  voiced  hope that consultations on Zimbabwe, which Russia had favored,  will  result  in  key  decisions  on the settlement,  in particular  an  understanding  on how to overcome differences, hopefully establishing civic peace and possibly distributing powers.</p>
<p>The  subject  of  Zimbabwe  &#8220;has been quite acute lately,&#8221; Medvedev said. The  declaration adopted at the G8 summit expressed the concern of G8 leaders  about  the  current processes in Zimbabwe, in particular the way the  elections were held, he said. &#8220;That was our common approach but we did not  agree  to  impose  any  sanctions  through the U.N. Security Council,&#8221; he said.</p>
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		<title>By: Aleks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Note that the government in Sudan is also in the news a lot, mostly for their dispossession - and mass murder - of black people....&quot;

Maybe that should be - ..&quot;mass murder - of black non-arab african people....&quot;

Lest us not forget that north sudan is predominantly arab and moslem and south sudan/rebels aren&#039;t arab or moslem (christian/animist).

Many thanks to the colonial Brits for creating the Sudan with such a peaceful mix!

Colonialism, it&#039;s the present that keeps on giving and giving and giving and giving and giving i.t.d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Note that the government in Sudan is also in the news a lot, mostly for their dispossession &#8211; and mass murder &#8211; of black people&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that should be &#8211; ..&#8221;mass murder &#8211; of black non-arab african people&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lest us not forget that north sudan is predominantly arab and moslem and south sudan/rebels aren&#8217;t arab or moslem (christian/animist).</p>
<p>Many thanks to the colonial Brits for creating the Sudan with such a peaceful mix!</p>
<p>Colonialism, it&#8217;s the present that keeps on giving and giving and giving and giving and giving i.t.d.</p>
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		<title>By: ivanov</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-3/#comment-61975</link>
		<dc:creator>ivanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Robert Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai have signed a deal....

Mr Mugabe praised &lt;b&gt;South Africa&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; President Thabo Mbeki, who helped broker the deal, but insisted that it would be Zimbabweans who resolved the crisis - without the influence of Europe or the US.

He has previously accused Mr Tsvangirai of being a &lt;b&gt;puppet of Western powers&lt;/b&gt; - particularly the UK, Zimbabwe&#039;s former colonial master.

A US state department spokesman said it supported any talks that would lead to a result reflecting the &quot;will of the Zimbabwean people&quot;. 

From BBC with love. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Robert Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai have signed a deal&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mr Mugabe praised <b>South Africa&#8217;s</b> President Thabo Mbeki, who helped broker the deal, but insisted that it would be Zimbabweans who resolved the crisis &#8211; without the influence of Europe or the US.</p>
<p>He has previously accused Mr Tsvangirai of being a <b>puppet of Western powers</b> &#8211; particularly the UK, Zimbabwe&#8217;s former colonial master.</p>
<p>A US state department spokesman said it supported any talks that would lead to a result reflecting the &#8220;will of the Zimbabwean people&#8221;. </p>
<p>From BBC with love. <img src='http://seansrussiablog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Candide</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-3/#comment-61924</link>
		<dc:creator>Candide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Anyone wishes to change sides? We’ll forgive you. We’re after all the good guys.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

That&#039;s typical political &#039;gangster&#039; talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Anyone wishes to change sides? We’ll forgive you. We’re after all the good guys.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s typical political &#8216;gangster&#8217; talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-3/#comment-61903</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voting for diplomacy does not allow one to feel the delicious quiver of self-righteous indigination. Shame on the Netherlands! SHAME!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting for diplomacy does not allow one to feel the delicious quiver of self-righteous indigination. Shame on the Netherlands! SHAME!</p>
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		<title>By: Joera</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/07/11/shame-on-russia/comment-page-3/#comment-61902</link>
		<dc:creator>Joera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a little newsflash to cure some of you from your delusions:

&quot;&quot;Zimbabwe&#039;s ruling party and opposition are due to sign a deal outlining a framework for talks on the country&#039;s political crisis, both sides say.

Haile Menkerios, the UN&#039;s envoy to Zimbabwe, said the deal would be signed by President Robert Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai.

South Africa&#039;s President Thabo Mbeki has gone to Harare to witness the deal.&quot;&quot;

Uhhhmmm... Didn&#039;t Russia vote WITH South Africa? Who cares about voting for sanctions, when you can vote for diplomacy? Perhaps neo-neanderthalers who believe diplomacy is a sign of weakness? 

Anyone wishes to change sides? We&#039;ll forgive you. We&#039;re after all the good guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little newsflash to cure some of you from your delusions:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Zimbabwe&#8217;s ruling party and opposition are due to sign a deal outlining a framework for talks on the country&#8217;s political crisis, both sides say.</p>
<p>Haile Menkerios, the UN&#8217;s envoy to Zimbabwe, said the deal would be signed by President Robert Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai.</p>
<p>South Africa&#8217;s President Thabo Mbeki has gone to Harare to witness the deal.&#8221;"</p>
<p>Uhhhmmm&#8230; Didn&#8217;t Russia vote WITH South Africa? Who cares about voting for sanctions, when you can vote for diplomacy? Perhaps neo-neanderthalers who believe diplomacy is a sign of weakness? </p>
<p>Anyone wishes to change sides? We&#8217;ll forgive you. We&#8217;re after all the good guys.</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Baffling in Latin doesn’t make you arguments brighter, db.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Arguments? What arguments? I merely keep asking you a concrete question: what, as you put it, &quot;different from Bush/Brown ideas&quot; could Medvedev possibly have in mind when he pledged to &quot;take further steps, inter alia introducing financial and other measures against those individuals responsible for violence&quot;?

Despite numerous attempts, you have been unable to come up with anything remotely resembling an answer. Try again, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Baffling in Latin doesn’t make you arguments brighter, db.</p></blockquote>
<p>Arguments? What arguments? I merely keep asking you a concrete question: what, as you put it, &#8220;different from Bush/Brown ideas&#8221; could Medvedev possibly have in mind when he pledged to &#8220;take further steps, inter alia introducing financial and other measures against those individuals responsible for violence&#8221;?</p>
<p>Despite numerous attempts, you have been unable to come up with anything remotely resembling an answer. Try again, please.</p>
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