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		<title>By: Candide</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60015</link>
		<dc:creator>Candide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Putin didn’t emasculate state structures by appointing people loyal to him.  There were no state structures to emasculate.  The Russian state has always been weak and more reliant on personalities.  Every Russian leader knows this which is why they appoint their minions, and have been doing it since Kievan Rus.&lt;/i&gt;

Beg to differ.

Appointing loyal people in the administration of the state in no way means emasculation of state structures.  For example, every US Prez. &#039;sweeps the house clean&#039; and brings loyal people to all the important positions.  To the contrary, the fact that this is done every few years attests to the structural stability of the US political system.  

In engineering terms, if you can replace component elements without destroying the system, the system is strong and sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Putin didn’t emasculate state structures by appointing people loyal to him.  There were no state structures to emasculate.  The Russian state has always been weak and more reliant on personalities.  Every Russian leader knows this which is why they appoint their minions, and have been doing it since Kievan Rus.</i></p>
<p>Beg to differ.</p>
<p>Appointing loyal people in the administration of the state in no way means emasculation of state structures.  For example, every US Prez. &#8217;sweeps the house clean&#8217; and brings loyal people to all the important positions.  To the contrary, the fact that this is done every few years attests to the structural stability of the US political system.  </p>
<p>In engineering terms, if you can replace component elements without destroying the system, the system is strong and sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60013</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is more the case that Russia is SUPPOSED to be nontransparent than that it actually is. (This is one place where the Russophobia concept has some validity.)

It really is weird how much analysis seems to be based on stereotypes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is more the case that Russia is SUPPOSED to be nontransparent than that it actually is. (This is one place where the Russophobia concept has some validity.)</p>
<p>It really is weird how much analysis seems to be based on stereotypes.</p>
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		<title>By: W. Shedd</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60012</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the names and backgrounds of various appointed government officials are all well-known, I&#039;m not sure how the Russian government is truly less transparent than any other government.  I know what the impression is, I just am unconvinced of the reality of that.  We don&#039;t know what is said behind closed doors in the U.S. White House either (and that also sells quite a number of books).

For example, people had been speculating for a couple of years that Medvedev would be Putin&#039;s annointed successor.  Then people started to see that as too obvious, Sergei Ivanov was discussed based upon his increased TV time, others tried to read tea leaves and spin theories, and in the end Russia ended up with the presidential candidate that was discussed over 2 years ago.

It really wasn&#039;t much of a mystery at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the names and backgrounds of various appointed government officials are all well-known, I&#8217;m not sure how the Russian government is truly less transparent than any other government.  I know what the impression is, I just am unconvinced of the reality of that.  We don&#8217;t know what is said behind closed doors in the U.S. White House either (and that also sells quite a number of books).</p>
<p>For example, people had been speculating for a couple of years that Medvedev would be Putin&#8217;s annointed successor.  Then people started to see that as too obvious, Sergei Ivanov was discussed based upon his increased TV time, others tried to read tea leaves and spin theories, and in the end Russia ended up with the presidential candidate that was discussed over 2 years ago.</p>
<p>It really wasn&#8217;t much of a mystery at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60011</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s not transparent. That doesn&#039;t make it into some Slavic version of the Borgias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s not transparent. That doesn&#8217;t make it into some Slavic version of the Borgias.</p>
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		<title>By: W. Shedd</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60010</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Western impression is that the Russian government is not transparent and therefore full of mystery and intrigue.

It&#039;s certainly has lead to numerous books, fictional and well ... less fictional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Western impression is that the Russian government is not transparent and therefore full of mystery and intrigue.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly has lead to numerous books, fictional and well &#8230; less fictional.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60009</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kasporov or almost anyone from “the West?”&quot;

I think Putin need not fear.

It seems to me that a lot of fantasizing takes place in these attempts at neo-Kremlinology. It&#039;s just so bonkers.

(My favorite of these was an op-ed in the MT during the Khodorkovsky affair, the author of which I do not remember. The gist of it was that nationalizing Yukos amounted to re-Sovietization of the economy, which would lead to economic collapse. Since a large proportion of Russia&#039;s wealthy are Jewish, this would result in scapegoating and anti-Semitic pogroms. I kid you not.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kasporov or almost anyone from “the West?”&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Putin need not fear.</p>
<p>It seems to me that a lot of fantasizing takes place in these attempts at neo-Kremlinology. It&#8217;s just so bonkers.</p>
<p>(My favorite of these was an op-ed in the MT during the Khodorkovsky affair, the author of which I do not remember. The gist of it was that nationalizing Yukos amounted to re-Sovietization of the economy, which would lead to economic collapse. Since a large proportion of Russia&#8217;s wealthy are Jewish, this would result in scapegoating and anti-Semitic pogroms. I kid you not.)</p>
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		<title>By: W. Shedd</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60007</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, almost forgot to add:

Go Celtics!  Beat L.A.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, almost forgot to add:</p>
<p>Go Celtics!  Beat L.A.!</p>
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		<title>By: W. Shedd</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60005</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kasporov or almost anyone from &quot;the West?&quot;

I don&#039;t buy that power in Russia (or any government) is only through the people you appoint.  That is an aspect of the short-term implementation of power, no doubt, and it fuels party systems and fealty.  But the laws of the land, their creation and enforcement, are the real power, particularly in the long-term.  I think it is no coincidence that &quot;dictatorship of the law&quot; and &quot;legal nihilism&quot; are early talking points by both Putin and Medvedev in their respective presidency&#039;s.

As to &quot;emasculate state structures&quot; - I say that, in fact, he strengthened the federal government of Russia, particularly in his office of the Presidency, at the expense of local oblasts, krais, okrugs, and republics.  It is easy for Americans (in particular) to forget just how autonomous the republics and okrugs were and remain.  I read a recent (short) article about Khanty-Mansi governor Alexander Filipenko, where he is described as a &quot;sheik&quot; ruling an &quot;emirate&quot;, as he seeks his regions own foreign business relations with India.

http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/A11516F60BEDA3366525746900223E27?OpenDocument

The US fought a war between the states, whose lasting legacy was not just abolition of slavery, but a strengthen of the federal government over the independent state governments.  To my mind, Russia had a similar potential for a war between its regions, had Putin not taken steps to curtail regional ambitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kasporov or almost anyone from &#8220;the West?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy that power in Russia (or any government) is only through the people you appoint.  That is an aspect of the short-term implementation of power, no doubt, and it fuels party systems and fealty.  But the laws of the land, their creation and enforcement, are the real power, particularly in the long-term.  I think it is no coincidence that &#8220;dictatorship of the law&#8221; and &#8220;legal nihilism&#8221; are early talking points by both Putin and Medvedev in their respective presidency&#8217;s.</p>
<p>As to &#8220;emasculate state structures&#8221; &#8211; I say that, in fact, he strengthened the federal government of Russia, particularly in his office of the Presidency, at the expense of local oblasts, krais, okrugs, and republics.  It is easy for Americans (in particular) to forget just how autonomous the republics and okrugs were and remain.  I read a recent (short) article about Khanty-Mansi governor Alexander Filipenko, where he is described as a &#8220;sheik&#8221; ruling an &#8220;emirate&#8221;, as he seeks his regions own foreign business relations with India.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/A11516F60BEDA3366525746900223E27?OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/A11516F60BEDA3366525746900223E27?OpenDocument</a></p>
<p>The US fought a war between the states, whose lasting legacy was not just abolition of slavery, but a strengthen of the federal government over the independent state governments.  To my mind, Russia had a similar potential for a war between its regions, had Putin not taken steps to curtail regional ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/16/clan-illogic/comment-page-1/#comment-60003</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of lunatic would try to prosecute the most popular person in Russia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of lunatic would try to prosecute the most popular person in Russia?</p>
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