Comments on: eXile Under Extreme Measures http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/ Russia Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:00:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Anon http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59979 Anon Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:45:43 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59979 well, Ames is just a silly parlor radical blowhard who confuses braying with cleverness. and he's a pretty creepy guy to boot, I recall him threatening me with violence several times, and a decade ago in Moscow that kind of threat was more serious than it is now. It's no great loss to the world. well, Ames is just a silly parlor radical blowhard who confuses braying with cleverness. and he’s a pretty creepy guy to boot, I recall him threatening me with violence several times, and a decade ago in Moscow that kind of threat was more serious than it is now. It’s no great loss to the world.

]]> By: IRISHMAN http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59903 IRISHMAN Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:42:28 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59903 ''...a Pennsylvanian IP address?''' I know someone, who is very naughty, who lives in Pennsylvania...guess who everyone?:-) ”…a Pennsylvanian IP address?”’

I know someone, who is very naughty, who lives in Pennsylvania…guess who everyone?:-)

]]> By: Sean http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59902 Sean Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:20:48 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59902 And its not even a lucrative prank. A mere $2561 from over 200 people. That's a mere $12.80 a rube! Plus "Mark" what are you doing with a Pennsylvanian IP address? And its not even a lucrative prank. A mere $2561 from over 200 people. That’s a mere $12.80 a rube! Plus “Mark” what are you doing with a Pennsylvanian IP address?

]]> By: IRISHMAN http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59901 IRISHMAN Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:17:07 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59901 ''$2,561 so far from over 200 generous donors. There’s one born every minute.'' Ames, you bollocks! I want my money back!!:-) ”$2,561 so far from over 200 generous donors. There’s one born every minute.”

Ames, you bollocks! I want my money back!!:-)

]]> By: Mark Ames http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59894 Mark Ames Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:15:52 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59894 Hoax! Hoax! Hoax! You can fool all people some of the time, but you can only fool the Moscow Times all of the time! That's five times now we got them with one of our pranks - that's five for five. Just send them a fax from "the Federal Service for Mass Media, Telecommunications, and the Protection of Cultural Heritage" and all of the sudden the eXile appears in the world press as the underdog fighting for press freedom. Not only did we get worldwide press coverage, but we started getting donations "to keep our website open." $2,561 so far from over 200 generous donors. There's one born every minute. See you in the funny papers. Mark Ames Hoax! Hoax! Hoax!

You can fool all people some of the time, but you can only fool the Moscow Times all of the time!

That’s five times now we got them with one of our pranks – that’s five for five. Just send them a fax from “the Federal Service for Mass Media, Telecommunications, and the Protection of Cultural Heritage” and all of the sudden the eXile appears in the world press as the underdog fighting for press freedom.

Not only did we get worldwide press coverage, but we started getting donations “to keep our website open.” $2,561 so far from over 200 generous donors. There’s one born every minute.

See you in the funny papers.

Mark Ames

]]> By: SKSingh http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59851 SKSingh Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:37:51 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59851 Probably just nobody reads it anymore, and it is going broke. They can't make money selling sex in Moscow anymore - what a bunch of incompetents! Their last lie might be their biggest lie: suggesting that somebody cares enough to close them down. Media martyrs - my ass. Probably just nobody reads it anymore, and it is going broke. They can’t make money selling sex in Moscow anymore – what a bunch of incompetents!

Their last lie might be their biggest lie: suggesting that somebody cares enough to close them down. Media martyrs – my ass.

]]> By: poemless http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59814 poemless Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:40:56 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59814 "I don’t think asking why now is as important as asking from where. The answer from the latter is sure to shed light on the former. I doubt the order to inspect the eXile came directly from the Kremlin mount. Russia’s chinovniki are so obsequious to those above that I wouldn’t doubt one of them is make a little campaign to with hopes please the new boss. That or Russia’s middle management haven’t got the message to back off the media." :) That was my next question! But the more I thought about it, the more it seemed like one of those old crime dramas where they have trouble finding the killer because everyone had a motive for wanting to kill the guy. I suspect there is a lack of coverage in the western press because, well, they aren't very sympathetic victims. Also, if you don't comment on the eXile, you don't run the risk of being the brunt of their next joke. Oh, the irony... Thanks for covering this and keep up the good work. “I don’t think asking why now is as important as asking from where. The answer from the latter is sure to shed light on the former. I doubt the order to inspect the eXile came directly from the Kremlin mount. Russia’s chinovniki are so obsequious to those above that I wouldn’t doubt one of them is make a little campaign to with hopes please the new boss. That or Russia’s middle management haven’t got the message to back off the media.”

:) That was my next question! But the more I thought about it, the more it seemed like one of those old crime dramas where they have trouble finding the killer because everyone had a motive for wanting to kill the guy.

I suspect there is a lack of coverage in the western press because, well, they aren’t very sympathetic victims. Also, if you don’t comment on the eXile, you don’t run the risk of being the brunt of their next joke. Oh, the irony…

Thanks for covering this and keep up the good work.

]]> By: James http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59808 James Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:04:44 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59808 Good post, Sean - I agree that it doesn't make sense that this could come from the top. On the English-language media coverage, I'm not so quick to assume that the under-coverage is related to some sort of callousness over some past slight made by Ames or others. Everyone who reads about Russia every day knows that it takes the New York Times about a month or so to catch up with an old story. Just today they are writing about the beheading video. Just chalk it up to mass media incompetence. Also, that long article by Ames on Radar (which has quite a high readership) should count for something. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/06/the-end-of-the-exile.php Any media getting shut down by government basically sucks, but when it is something alternative and satire-oriented like eXile, that makes it even more scary, no? Good post, Sean – I agree that it doesn’t make sense that this could come from the top.

On the English-language media coverage, I’m not so quick to assume that the under-coverage is related to some sort of callousness over some past slight made by Ames or others. Everyone who reads about Russia every day knows that it takes the New York Times about a month or so to catch up with an old story. Just today they are writing about the beheading video. Just chalk it up to mass media incompetence.

Also, that long article by Ames on Radar (which has quite a high readership) should count for something.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/06/the-end-of-the-exile.php

Any media getting shut down by government basically sucks, but when it is something alternative and satire-oriented like eXile, that makes it even more scary, no?

]]> By: Jesse http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59803 Jesse Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:18:05 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59803 I donated what I could...it would be a shame if the paper ceased to exist entirely... I donated what I could…it would be a shame if the paper ceased to exist entirely…

]]> By: W. Shedd http://seansrussiablog.org/2008/06/11/exile-under-extreme-measures/comment-page-1/#comment-59800 W. Shedd Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:57:55 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=638#comment-59800 Sounds like the fight now is to get some cash together to move the eXile website onto a non-Russian server. http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=19253&IBLOCK_ID=35 Sounds like the fight now is to get some cash together to move the eXile website onto a non-Russian server.

http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=19253&IBLOCK_ID=35

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