Comments on: Society of Spectacle http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/ Russia Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:00:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Russie - Vidéo Décapitation Néo-nazi « Robert Lindsay http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-181110 Russie - Vidéo Décapitation Néo-nazi « Robert Lindsay Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:03:50 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-181110 [...] Un d’eux a les yeux écarquillés et il est absolument terrorisé! Changement de scène: les nazis ont tendu des fils entre deux arbres puis ont monté leur infâme drapeau, les deux hommes sont en-dessous, attachés et à genoux. Depuis leur bâillon on entend des mots avec un fort accent russe “nous avons été arrêtés par les Nationalsocialistes Russes”! [...] [...] Un d’eux a les yeux écarquillés et il est absolument terrorisé! Changement de scène: les nazis ont tendu des fils entre deux arbres puis ont monté leur infâme drapeau, les deux hommes sont en-dessous, attachés et à genoux. Depuis leur bâillon on entend des mots avec un fort accent russe “nous avons été arrêtés par les Nationalsocialistes Russes”! [...]

]]> By: Video Shock: I Neo Nazisti Russi Decapitano Un Prigioniero Caucasico « Robert Lindsay http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-180377 Video Shock: I Neo Nazisti Russi Decapitano Un Prigioniero Caucasico « Robert Lindsay Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:54:54 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-180377 [...] ad essa,in ginocchio e legati. Dai loro bavagli si sentono delle parole in forte accento russo ’siamo stati arrestati dai Nazionalsocialisti Russi’ [...] [...] ad essa,in ginocchio e legati. Dai loro bavagli si sentono delle parole in forte accento russo ’siamo stati arrestati dai Nazionalsocialisti Russi’ [...]

]]> By: Russian Neo-Nazi Beheading Video « Robert Lindsay http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-180368 Russian Neo-Nazi Beheading Video « Robert Lindsay Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:30:47 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-180368 [...] two frightened men apparently saying, unprompted, in heavily accented Russian, through their gags, “Russian National Socialists arrested us”, as they are bound by hands and legs, kneeling, in the forest. There is a large Nazi flag in the [...] [...] two frightened men apparently saying, unprompted, in heavily accented Russian, through their gags, “Russian National Socialists arrested us”, as they are bound by hands and legs, kneeling, in the forest. There is a large Nazi flag in the [...]

]]> By: bobby http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-45943 bobby Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:35:25 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-45943 Rahul,if you dont care about your life or your dignity then go to Russia for studies.I am an indian and been there for seven long years.So i know what Russia really is.The racism,prejudice and preconcieved notion about coloured people are so wide spread,that you will believe only when you experience it.For russian racists it does not matter that you are an indian or pakistani.For them you are a black cockroach to be crushed.I know so many students who were brutally attacked or killed just because of their colour.And it is not only in moscow or stpetersburg that you will experience violent racism,but also in almost every part of white russia you are likely to become a victim of racism.If you still dont believe,then open www.youtube.com and print russian skinheads.You will see lot of videos were black people are being bearen or even killed.I finished my studies in russia in 2002.Even then there was wide spread racism.Only thing was that it was not getting this much publicity.But defenitely brutality and popularity of racism has gone up. Rahul,if you dont care about your life or your dignity then go to Russia for studies.I am an indian and been there for seven long years.So i know what Russia really is.The racism,prejudice and preconcieved notion about coloured people are so wide spread,that you will believe only when you experience it.For russian racists it does not matter that you are an indian or pakistani.For them you are a black cockroach to be crushed.I know so many students who were brutally attacked or killed just because of their colour.And it is not only in moscow or stpetersburg that you will experience violent racism,but also in almost every part of white russia you are likely to become a victim of racism.If you still dont believe,then open http://www.youtube.com and print russian skinheads.You will see lot of videos were black people are being bearen or even killed.I finished my studies in russia in 2002.Even then there was wide spread racism.Only thing was that it was not getting this much publicity.But defenitely brutality and popularity of racism has gone up.

]]> By: rahul http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-5998 rahul Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:37:04 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-5998 Hi Friends, I have been looking at these posts for a very long time now. Well, I am an Indian. Russia and India are good friends since very long.They have a great history and both the countries respect each other and ready to support each other in any situation. Then why these racial attacks on people of different ethnic groups???? I also got admission in a Russian university in St.Petersburg, But I am still making up my mind whether to go to Russia or not. I love Russia. But this racism thing is coming in between. You suggest me what should I do??..Shall I come to Russia..?? Best Regards, Rahul Hi Friends,
I have been looking at these posts for a very long time now. Well, I am an Indian. Russia and India are good friends since very long.They have a great history and both the countries respect each other and ready to support each other in any situation. Then why these racial attacks on people of different ethnic groups????
I also got admission in a Russian university in St.Petersburg, But I am still making up my mind whether to go to Russia or not. I love Russia. But this racism thing is coming in between.
You suggest me what should I do??..Shall I come to Russia..??

Best Regards,

Rahul

]]> By: trainedseal http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-5690 trainedseal Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:12:52 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-5690 I'm not sure if I agree that the question of this video's reality is unimportant. Actually I would argue that its authenticity - and debates over that authenticity as well - are key to its spectacular effect. That is not to suggest that real or fake is the issue, only to acknowledge that realism is key to how we view mediated violence. Violence that we believe to be simulated does not have the same effects - psychological or political - as that which we believe to be real. That said, the spectacle of violence is not simply about greater realism, it is also about making real violence increasingly unreal. The question as to whether this video is seen as an authentic document of real violence against visible minorities in Russia or as an extreme fantasy image that can be used to deny the real violence taking place (or as something else) seems to me central to its effects. And for ah, Looks like racist snuff films aren't just a Russian phenom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmrR8oqGeLo For what's worth, the makers of the film say its fake. I’m not sure if I agree that the question of this video’s reality is unimportant. Actually I would argue that its authenticity – and debates over that authenticity as well – are key to its spectacular effect. That is not to suggest that real or fake is the issue, only to acknowledge that realism is key to how we view mediated violence. Violence that we believe to be simulated does not have the same effects – psychological or political – as that which we believe to be real.

That said, the spectacle of violence is not simply about greater realism, it is also about making real violence increasingly unreal. The question as to whether this video is seen as an authentic document of real violence against visible minorities in Russia or as an extreme fantasy image that can be used to deny the real violence taking place (or as something else) seems to me central to its effects.

And for ah, Looks like racist snuff films aren’t just a Russian phenom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmrR8oqGeLo

For what’s worth, the makers of the film say its fake.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Russia: Ethnic Hate Crime Video http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-5651 Global Voices Online » Russia: Ethnic Hate Crime Video Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:58:07 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-5651 [...] Russia Blog writes about a video of the execution of two ethnic non-Russians by masked figures claiming to be members [...] [...] Russia Blog writes about a video of the execution of two ethnic non-Russians by masked figures claiming to be members [...]

]]> By: ivanov http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-5631 ivanov Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:06:39 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-5631 sorry for several posts but you should blame spam filter :)) It stoped post with link that starts with /http:/ ... then let them to appear (or something wrong with my browser) sorry for several posts but you should blame spam filter :) )
It stoped post with link that starts with /http:/ … then let them to appear (or something wrong with my browser)

]]> By: ivanov http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-5629 ivanov Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:23:44 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-5629 Shedd. If you want to measure asses - you should look in different direction. abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/story?id=990187 ABC expressed shock. The network late yesterday issued a statement saying it regretted Moscow's action but that it could not allow any government to prevent it from reporting the news "fully and accurately." U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey, speaking yesterday in Washington, said the United States government condemned actions claimed by Basaev in the strongest possible terms. "We certainly believe that the actions taken by certain terrorist groups in Chechnya, certainly the actions taken at the school in Beslan and some of the other terrorist activities that have gone on, are absolutely deplorable," Casey said... But at the same time, Casey said the United States does not believe censoring or punishing the media is legitimate. "I don't think, if in fact, ABC is to somehow be banned from reporting in Russia that that would be a positive statement about freedom of expression," he said. So my question again - what is the F&^^% difference? Shedd.
If you want to measure asses – you should look in different direction.

abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/story?id=990187

ABC expressed shock. The network late yesterday issued a statement saying it regretted Moscow’s action but that it could not allow any government to prevent it from reporting the news “fully and accurately.”

U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey, speaking yesterday in Washington, said the United States government condemned actions claimed by Basaev in the strongest possible terms.

“We certainly believe that the actions taken by certain terrorist groups in Chechnya, certainly the actions taken at the school in Beslan and some of the other terrorist activities that have gone on, are absolutely deplorable,” Casey said…

But at the same time, Casey said the United States does not believe censoring or punishing the media is legitimate. “I don’t think, if in fact, ABC is to somehow be banned from reporting in Russia that that would be a positive statement about freedom of expression,” he said.

So my question again – what is the F&^^% difference?

]]> By: ivanov http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/08/14/society-of-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-5627 ivanov Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:20:28 +0000 http://seansrussiablog.org/?p=441#comment-5627 Shedd. If you want to measure asses - you should look in different direction. http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/story?id=990187 ABC expressed shock. The network late yesterday issued a statement saying it regretted Moscow's action but that it could not allow any government to prevent it from reporting the news "fully and accurately." U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey, speaking yesterday in Washington, said the United States government condemned actions claimed by Basaev in the strongest possible terms. "We certainly believe that the actions taken by certain terrorist groups in Chechnya, certainly the actions taken at the school in Beslan and some of the other terrorist activities that have gone on, are absolutely deplorable," Casey said... But at the same time, Casey said the United States does not believe censoring or punishing the media is legitimate. "I don't think, if in fact, ABC is to somehow be banned from reporting in Russia that that would be a positive statement about freedom of expression," he said. So my question again - what is the F&^^% difference? Shedd.
If you want to measure asses – you should look in different direction.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/story?id=990187

ABC expressed shock. The network late yesterday issued a statement saying it regretted Moscow’s action but that it could not allow any government to prevent it from reporting the news “fully and accurately.”

U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey, speaking yesterday in Washington, said the United States government condemned actions claimed by Basaev in the strongest possible terms.

“We certainly believe that the actions taken by certain terrorist groups in Chechnya, certainly the actions taken at the school in Beslan and some of the other terrorist activities that have gone on, are absolutely deplorable,” Casey said…

But at the same time, Casey said the United States does not believe censoring or punishing the media is legitimate. “I don’t think, if in fact, ABC is to somehow be banned from reporting in Russia that that would be a positive statement about freedom of expression,” he said.

So my question again – what is the F&^^% difference?

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